I have been asked by friends and family to type up all the
quotations that I mention to them of why I believe The Holy City rests here on earth
before the 1000 years. At different times different things come to my mind but I have
never clustered them all together on one sheet or document. So I will here begin this work
January 22, 2004. A feeble partial work, I started before with mtolive.htm
I am nothing, but I desire to share ideas and thoughts, scripture texts and Ellen White quotes that bring up a different scheme of things, a different layout or time table and sequence of events.
I believe that after the 144,000 with those raised in the special ressurection of those who have died in the hope of the third angels message, will go up with Yahooshua in the cloud of 10,000 angels.
These are called to the marriage supper of The Lamb.
They rest in heaven a short while, then within the frame of time as per the feasts, the firstfruits are gathered in, till the time of the harvest, perhaps 50 days later? The holy city comes down, and rests on mt. Olivet, after Yahooshua's feet cleanse the entire land of Canaan. Abrahams Farm, "while the rest of the earth is not cleansed until the end of the 1000 years when the wicked dead are raised."
Daniel 2:44 "And in the days of these kings shall the Eloah of heaven set up a a kingdom, (Royal Reign) that shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever."
Yes, with Our Father, Most High, Living in New Yahrushalom, and His Son leading the armies to fight spiritual and physical battles for this earth. His Royal Reign shall never pass away. This is tied also to the two comings, Yahooshua's coming for the firstfruits, with 10,000 angels, and this one with The Father sitting upon the Throne, and Yahooshua "The Lamb" All the angels, The Holy City, The Saints, every eye sees, While ... the wordly SDA still alive hides in caverns hoping to escape what they then know is coming. Also the SDA who rejected the Latter Rain last message of the fourth angel, at the firstfruits coming, their faces gathered blackness as their probation has already closed. All others gather only paleness.
Their eyes consume away in their holes, those that do not come up to worship The King, Father Yah who dwelleth in Yahrushalom, where He has spoken of His Desire to dwell.
Testimonies for the Church Volume Nine, Page 97, The Work in the
Cities, Paragraph 2
Oh, that the people might know the time of their visitation! There are many who have not yet heard the testing truth for this time. There are many with whom the Spirit of God is striving. The time of God's destructive judgments is the time of mercy for those who have had no opportunity to learn what is truth. Tenderly will the Lord look upon them. His heart of mercy is touched; His hand is still stretched out to save, while the door is closed to those who would not enter.
Revelation 3:10-(message to the Philadelphians-who deny not His Name, next to last church, while laodicea is last and left behind "for where the carcass is, thither shall the eagles be gathered") Becuase thou hast kept the word of My patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of tempatation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
In Revelation the Angel comes on a cloud and harvests, then an angel immediately after comes with plagues.
Another perspective is in the vision that clearly points out that it
is soon after the 144,000 are translated to heaven that they come back to this earth, as
per the vision where, after The Holy City has settled on the plain, Ellen White describes
traveling and seeing a company with red on their garments hems, and Yahooshua telling her
they were martyrs. And she states with them were an innumerable company of little ones
with red also on their garments.
So lets think a moment here, if the city doesn't come to this earth till after a thousand years, then why is it that these little ones who also had a hem of red on their garments, have not grown to full adulthood, when the prophecy is, "they shall grow as calves of the stall" ?
-TI- Early Writings of Ellen G. White
-CT- Experience and Views
As we were traveling along, we met a company who also were gazing at the glories of the place. I noticed red as a border on their garments; their crowns were brilliant; their robes were pure white. As we greeted
them, I asked Jesus who they were. He said they were martyrs that had been slain for Him. With them was an innumerable company of little ones; they also had a hem of red on their garments. Mount Zion was just before us, and on the mount was a glorious temple, and about it were seven other mountains, on which grew roses and lilies. And I saw the little ones climb, or, if they chose, use their little wings and fly, to the top of the mountains and pluck the never-fading flowers. There were all kinds of trees around the temple to beautify the place: the box, the pine, the fir, the oil, the myrtle, the pomegranate, and the fig tree bowed down with the weight of its timely figs--these made the place all over glorious. And as we were about to enter the holy temple, Jesus raised His lovely voice and said, "Only the 144,000 enter this place," and we shouted, "Alleluia."
Another quote of interest
-TI- Sermons and Talks Volume One
-CT- Keep the Commandments
How careful we are with all our property. You are very careful to keep
all the laws of the land, and to see that your deeds are made right. Be as
careful that you get a deed [the following two lines have been over-typed
and are not readable]. Those who have been careless regarding the law will
lose heaven. We do not want to lose the place in the world that is to be
Now look at the last sentence
We do not want to lose the place in the world that is to be
She says in the Oswego vision "while the rest of the earth is not cleansed until the end of the one thousand, ... see it below
-TI- Manuscript Releases Volume Sixteen
-CT- A Vision Received in Oswego, New York, January 26, 1850
I then saw the holy city, and that we should rest in the city
through the 1,000 years, and reign as kings and priests unto God. [Then]
Here remove the word "Then" and you can more easily see the true quotation and meaning.
Jesus will descend upon the Mount of Olives, and the mount will part
asunder and become a mighty plain for the Paradise of God to rest upon. Pause
[Ezekiel 37:26-28 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them: it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set My sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore. My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their Elohim and they shall be My people. And the heathen shall know that I Yahweh do sanctify Israel, when My sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore.]Why is it? That Yahweh comes to earth, disguising His Glory, till a point? (see ezek. 38:23) It is to test the inhabitants of earth, like He tested the angels in heaven, whose loyalty was openly manifested. Jesus (actually Lucifer) has appeared on earth, claiming to be the Messiah of the Greek text of the New Testament. Men will have to decide between loyalty to the Supreme Elohim of The Old Testament, and loyalty to His Will, His Ways, and His Laws, of Whom the True Mashiach, said, heaven and earth shall pass before one yod or one tagin shall pass from the Law till all be fulfilled, and between "Jesus" the false modern salvator of the greek text. So in the end Ezekiel 38:23 "Thus will I magnify Myself, and sanctify Myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am Yahweh." Ezekiel 39:7 "So will I make My Holy Name known in the midst of My people Israel; and I will not let them pollute My holy Name any more: and the heathen shall know that I am Yahweh, the Holy One in Israel." Thus is seen, that before the millenium, the third coming with the holy city has happened, and the wicked are left dead carcases on the face of the earth, for the birds to devour. (Ezek. 39:4) Thus the Region of Abraham's farm is never polluted, satan and his follower rebellious angels remain alive for the millenium, to hear the happiness of the saints in the city through the thousand years, while he has been "chained" to the bottomless pit by "Michael" who Is The Man with a Strong Hand that holds him firm, and he can't escape from His All Powerful Grasp, led out into the wilderness, out of the camp, (like the scapegoat) and Israel remains safe in the City. The righteous judge the wicked, and in the end, after the thousand years Shabat, the wicked hosts of all ages rise from the dead, to received their reward, to know the EMeT (Truth) which they refused, and why they are punished, then after satan is destroyed the last, Our Great Creator recreates this earth to eden again.
End of Pause
The rest of the earth will not be
cleansed until the wicked dead are raised and come up around the city at the end of the
1,000 years. Then fire will come down from God out of heaven and
devour them, burn them up root and branch. Satan is the root, and his children are the
Then the same fire that will devour the wicked will purify the earth. I
saw that the feet of the wicked would never desecrate the earth made
new. All the immortality we now have is by faith in hope of immortality
at the appearing of Christ.--Ms 4, 1850.
White Estate, Washington, D. C.
May 1, 1986. Entire Manuscript.
So with these last two quotes, you may clearly ascertain that the New Canaan region is purified, and the rest is not till the end of the one thousand years. Purified by the Feet of Him Who died that we might Live.
Another point to consider is that the 50 texts Ellen White saw on a card with golden letters, after she was made dumb for doubting the Work of The Holy Spirit, are the last 10 texts which have to do with end time events, apparently in the proper sequence, till happy in The City of Yah. In these texts the events follow like in her vision, no lapse of time involved except "there remaineth therefore The Sabbath Rest to the people of Yah" so that is one week. Possibly, 7 days to the sea of glass, spend a week in heaven, the city descends, maybe taking another week, or mayber the total is 7, 14 or 50 days after, there are those much more sudied than I about the feasts and events and timing thereof. Day of Atonement, 10th day, 11th day Yahooshua leaves the most Holy place, and about the 14th day the small black cloud, feast of tabernacles spent with Yahooshua enroute to the Holy City, to be presented as the "FirstFruits" unto Father Yah. Then not long after, the City descends to earth, perhaps above long enough to get the attention of earth, then Yahooshua leaves the City and with the saints travel to earth from orbit first, and Yahooshua's Feet cleanse the land of Canaan, and then the Holy City descends from stationary above the earth, surrounding Yahooshua and the saints, the entire region recreated to Edenic form and loveliness, and made fit for The Paradise of Yah to land upon. Yahooshua's feet having touched and smoothed the Mount of Olives.
Perhaps this begins that 100 year slot of time spoken in the last of Isaiah, of a child living to 100 years.
Sorry to get carried away with speculation, but I know the Old Testament stands while any conflict from the New Testament falls, as it is a work from the heathen and papists, containing but some rudiments of Truth from the Hebrew New Testament the writers wrote in their own native tongue, Hebrew, all nearly being confiscated and burned with the bodies of the believers in the dark ages, or in piles separate. But like the king who cut them with a penknife, and tossed into the fire, The Word came back, so in these last days, the discovery of the Hebrew originals will bring back the persecution of the dark ages, as the Truth has always been fought by the enemy of The Light of The Glorious Name of The Father of Eternity.
Isaiah 24:23 Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when Yahweh of hosts shall reign in mount Zion, and in Yahrushalom, and before his ancients gloriously.
The Missing quote NOT on the EGW CD-ROM
From MR # 866 frame 7, (on microfilm Manuscript Releases)
"Momentous truth is conveyed to the mind through the reading of the Scriptures. Every word is a valuable pearl. No word is to lose its virtue and force. One word changed would injure the thought and destroy the lesson taught. By incorrect punctuation the meaning of the word of God may be greatly altered. The Holy Spirit directed and impressed the writers of the Bible. These men did not write words of human wisdom, but words given them by God." MS-40-1900.
(Below I have rearranged or edited slightly, with the bulk of the very same words, so as to me to make sense.)
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Rearrangement is in the first paragraph only With Holy Name Edits
I saw Yahshua & the holy city will descend upon the Mount of Olives, and the mount will part asunder and become a mighty plain for the Paradise of Yahweh to rest upon, and then that we should rest in the city through the 1,000 years, and reign as kings and priests unto Yahweh.
The rest of the earth will not be cleansed until the wicked dead are raised and come up around the city at the end of the 1,000 years. Then fire will come down from Yahweh out of heaven and devour them, burn them up root and branch. Satan is the root, and his children are the branches. Then the same fire that will devour the wicked will purify the earth. I saw that the feet of the wicked would never desecrate the earth made new. All the immortality we now have is by faith in hope of immortality at the appearing of Yahshua our Messiah.--Ms 4, 1850 --rearranged by Lenny Bratcher
Possibly there are some errors in this document, but I feel it is getting much closer to what is coming, than the things with which we have been dealt deceitfully with, the false translations of the Scriptures to English, and the editing done to Ellen Whites books. So I go with the many many quotes from the old testament that describe quite differently some things than what the new testament teaches, and some statements in Ellen White. We have the Hebrew Masoretic text, much with a Divinely Inspired mathematical design and relationships that are up and beyond the scope of finite imperfect beings. Yes inlaid perfection, that immediately upon tampering with, pops up in error, as the distortion from the Divine Perfect Pattern immediately reveals tampering.
Well I have slept some early this evening, and taking a shower I
remembered another point.
"there is nothing new under the sun"
This means to me that if the 1000 years were true, why is there not a trace or hint of it anywhere in the old testament scriptures. I have found no mention there but the contrary, that Yahweh roars from Zion. I have faith in the old testament that we have the original Hebrew for, the text with the mathematical perfection, and the perfections of the modern Hebrew text, that has the yod and tagin, that Yahooshua mentioned, "not one yod or tagin shall pass from the law till all be fulfilled" yod is the smallest letter that every other letter is created by, and starts at the tip with a yod, and the tagin are little decorations above. In Genesis 1:1 the fifth letter is the first tav, count 50 and vav the second letter of "torah" count 50 and resh the 3rd letter of torah, count fifty and "he" the 4th letter of "Torah".
Mem is the middle letter of the Hebrew, EMeT is Truth in Hebrew spelled with Alef the first letter, mem the second letter, tav the last letter. Truth is balanced. Truth makes sense, in the Hebrew, EMeT is the Truth that shall set us free, free from the "it is through false theories and traditions that satan gains his power over the mind" The Hebrew can set us free, not the King James Version that has some Truth, but intertwined with the "errors handed down by the heathen and papists", that Ellen White mentions in Early Writings, the saints must be purified from before translation.
The Hebrew language was undoubtedly the language of heaven that was
shared with men until the tower of babel, when at the tower they lost communicative
abilities which stopped the work.
What about distant areas, where men lived in accordance with His Will? For what reason would their language have been changed.
Probably only at the tower, to stop the work, were the languages changed.
Only in the Hebrew are these evidences and traces of Divine Origin and perfection, as per Genesis 1:1 "from eternity elohim created alef-tav" the first creation were the letters of language, each letter represents a cosmic power, and with these creations, He created the heavens and the earth. see http://www.sda-online.com/public/words.htm
Zechariah 13:9, the final trying and perfection of the 144,000 in verse 9, then immediately next chapter 14:1 the nations fight and take Yahrushalom, compare Daniel 11:45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain: yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him. 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people and there shall be a time of touble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
Zechariah 14:1 Behold, the day of Yahweh cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. 2 For I will gather all nations against Yahrushalom to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. 3 Then shall Yahweh (Michael Dan 12:1) go forth, and fight against those nations, as when He fought in the day of battle. 4 And His feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Yahrushalom on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south. 5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Yudah: and Yahweh my Elohim shall come, and all the saints with Him 6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear in some places, and dark in other places of the world: 7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to Yahweh, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time is shall be light 8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Yahrushalom; half of them toward the eastern, and half of them toward the western sea: in summer and in winter shall it be. 9 And Yahweh shall be King over all the earth: and in that day Yahweh will prove to be a UNITY, and with One Name. 10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon, south of Yahrushalom: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benhamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner-gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king's wine-presses. 11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Yahrushalom shall be safely inhabited. 12 And this shall be the plague wherewith Yahweh will smite all the people that have fought against Yahrushalom; Their flesh shall consume away while they sttand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Yudah and Yahrushalom. And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of Yahweh's house shall be established in the top of the mountains (Mt. Olivet), and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
(This takes place before probation for those who have had no opportunity to learn what is Truth, 'The time of God's destructive judgments is the time of mercy for those who have had no opportunity to learn what is truth.'Testimonies for the Church Volume Nine, Page 97)
3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of Yahweh, to the house of the Elohim of Yacob; and He will teach us of His ways, and we will walk in His paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of Yahweh from Yahrushalom.
4. And He shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plough-shares, and their spears into pruning-hooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
5. O house of Yacob, come ye, and let us walk in the light of Yahweh.
6. Therefore Thou hast forsaken Thy people the house of Yacob, because they were filled with customs from the east, and are soothsayers like the Philistines, and they unite themselves with the children of strangers.
All her people sigh, they seek bread; they have given their pleasant things for food to relieve the soul: see O Yahweh, and consider; for I am become vile.
4 Hear this O ye that swallow up the needy, even to make the poor of the land to fail,
5 Saying, When will the new moon be gone, that we may sell corn? and the sabbath, that we may set forth wheat, making the ephah small, and the shekel great, and falsifying the balances by deceit?
6 That we may buy the poor for silver, and the needy for a pair of shoes; yea, and sell the refuse of the wheat?
31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute[#2490-1c (Pual) to profane (name of Elohim)] the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
Psalms 61:3 - For thou hast been a shelter for me, [and] a strong tower from the enemy.
Proverbs 18:10 - A Tower of Prevailing Majestic Strength the name YodHeVavHe is, into It runneth the righteous and is elevated.
Revelation 13:6 - And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against Yahweh, to blaspheme His Name, and His tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
Psalms 91:1 - He who dwells in the secret of Elyons' Shade, El Shaddai, shall pass the night.
11 Give us this day our daily bread.
Christian Service -CN- 14 -CT- Religious
Liberty -PR- 01 -PG- 160
Threefold Persecuting Union
Through the two great errors, the immortality of the soul and Sunday sacredness, Satan will bring the people under his deceptions. While the former lays the foundation of Spiritualism, the latter creates a bond of sympathy with Rome. The Protestants of the United States will be foremost in stretching their hands across the gulf to grasp the hand of Spiritualism; they will reach over the abyss to clasp hands with the Roman power; and under the influence of this threefold union, this country will follow in the steps of Rome in trampling on the rights of conscience.--Great Controversy, p. 588.
Last Day Events - The Little Time of Trouble -PR- 01 -PG- 144
The End of Religious Liberty in the United States
The law of God, through the agency of Satan, is to be made void. In our land of boasted freedom religious liberty will come to an end. The contest will be decided over the Sabbath question, which will agitate the whole world.--Ev 236 (1875).
A great crisis awaits the people of God. Very soon our nation will attempt to enforce upon all the observance of the first day of the week as a sacred day. In doing this they will not scruple to compel men against the voice of their own conscience to observe the day the nation declares to be the Sabbath.--RH Extra, Dec. 11, 1888.
Seventh-day Adventists will fight the battle over the seventh-day Sabbath. The authorities in the United States and in other countries will rise up in their pride and power and make laws to restrict religious liberty.--Ms 78, 1897.
The Protestants of the United States will be foremost in stretching their hands across the gulf to grasp the hand of spiritualism; they will reach over the abyss to clasp hands with the Roman power; and under the influence of this threefold union, this country will follow in the steps of Rome in trampling on the rights of conscience.--GC 588 (1911).
Church and State Oppose God's People
Those religious bodies who refuse to hear God's messages of warning will be under strong deception and will unite with the civil power to persecute the saints. The Protestant churches will unite with the papal power in persecuting the commandment-keeping people of God. . . .
This lamb-like power unites with the dragon in making war upon those who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.--14MR 162 (1899).
The church appeals to the strong arm of civil power, and in this work papists and Protestants unite.--GC 607 (1911).
All who will not bow to the decree of the national
councils and obey the national laws to exalt the sabbath
instituted by the man of sin, to the disregard of God's holy day, will
feel, not the oppressive power of popery alone, but of the Protestant world, the image of
the beast.--2SM 380 (1886).
Christ's Object Lessons
-CN- 29 To Meet the Bridegroom -PR- 01 -PG- 412
It is in a crisis that character is revealed. When the earnest voice proclaimed at midnight, "Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him," and the sleeping virgins were roused from their slumbers, it was seen who had made preparation for the event. Both parties were taken unawares; but one was prepared for the emergency, and the other was found without preparation. So now, a sudden and unlooked-for calamity, something that brings the soul face to face with death, will show whether there is any real faith in the promises of God. It will show whether the soul is sustained by grace. The great final test comes at the close of human probation, when it will be too late for the soul's need to be supplied.